Formulation Questions: HPMC/Carbomer Gelling, pH Adjustment, Powder Dissolution, Mixing Order

Asked by: kentos666 On: October 16, 2017 Product Type: Cosmetics

Question

I have several questions regarding cosmetic formulation:

  • Can Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose (HPMC) (ID 336 or ID 7474) be dissolved in room temperature water by just stirring, without heating or using a blender?
  • If I mix acidic Carbomer (ID 651) with alkaline Lauryl Glucoside (ID 177), will this combination eliminate the need for Triethanolamine and Lactic Acid for pH adjustment, or will only one of them be required?
  • For powder ingredients, does "water-phase" specifically mean dissolving in pure water? Can these powders be dissolved in glycerin instead?
  • Is the standard mixing order always dissolving powders in pure water first, followed by adding liquid water-soluble ingredients?

Answer

Cosmetic Formulation Questions

Let's break down your questions about using Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose (HPMC) and Carbomer, pH adjustment, dissolving powders, and mixing order.

Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose (HPMC) Dissolution

You asked if you can dissolve Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose (HPMC) in room temperature water by just stirring, without heating or a blender.

  • Standard HPMC (like the one with ID 336) typically requires specific conditions to dissolve and form a gel properly. The description for HPMC (ID 336) mentions dissolving and gelling around 70°C and dissolving fastest at pH 3-7. It suggests methods like dispersing in hot water or dispersing in a non-solvent like glycerin or propylene glycol before adding to cold water (below 20°C). Simply stirring in room temperature water is unlikely to fully hydrate and gel standard HPMC effectively, and you might end up with clumps.
  • However, there are special grades of HPMC available, such as HPMC ColdMix™ (ID 7474). The description for HPMC ColdMix™ explicitly states it is soluble in cold water and does not need warming. You disperse the powder in room temperature water, and then add an alkali (like Triethanolamine or Sodium Hydroxide) to adjust the pH to 8.5-9.0 while stirring. This triggers the thickening and forms a clear gel. If you want to avoid heating, using an HPMC ColdMix™ type would be a suitable option, although it requires pH adjustment with an alkali.

Carbomer, Lauryl Glucoside, and pH Adjustment

You are wondering if mixing acidic Carbomer with alkaline Lauryl Glucoside means you don't need Triethanolamine and Lactic Acid for pH adjustment, or if only one is needed.

  • Carbomer (ID 651) is an acidic powder that requires neutralization with an alkali (like Triethanolamine) to swell and form a gel. It typically gels best in a pH range of 6-7. Carbomer gels are unstable in highly acidic conditions (pH below 5).
  • Lauryl Glucoside (ID 177) is a surfactant that is naturally alkaline, with a pH around 11.5. For sensitive skin, the final product pH should ideally be adjusted to a range of 5-6.5 using an acid like Lactic Acid or Citric Acid.
  • While mixing acidic Carbomer with alkaline Lauryl Glucoside will affect the overall pH, it's unlikely to automatically result in the optimal pH for Carbomer gelling (pH 6-7) and the desired final pH for a skin cleanser (pH 5-6.5).
  • Therefore, you will likely still need both a base (like Triethanolamine) to neutralize and activate the Carbomer to form the gel, and an acid (like Lactic Acid) to adjust the final product's pH down to a skin-friendly range after all ingredients are combined. The exact amounts will depend on the concentration of each ingredient in your specific formula.

Dissolving Powder Ingredients ("Water-Phase")

You asked if "water-phase" for powder ingredients means dissolving in pure water and if they can be dissolved in glycerin.

  • "Water-phase" refers to the part of your formulation that consists mainly of water and water-soluble ingredients.
  • Ingredients designated for the "water-phase" are generally intended to be dissolved or dispersed in water.
  • For many powders, dissolving directly in pure water is the standard method.
  • However, for some powders, particularly those that tend to clump easily in water (like some types of HPMC or Carbomer), it can be helpful to first disperse them in a small amount of a water-miscible liquid like glycerin or propylene glycol before adding this dispersion to the main water phase. This helps prevent clumping and ensures smoother hydration. Lactic Acid (ID 170) is also noted to be soluble in water, alcohol, and glycerin.

Mixing Order

You asked if the mixing order is always dissolving powders in pure water first, then adding liquid water-soluble ingredients.

  • The optimal mixing order depends on the specific ingredients and their properties. There isn't one universal rule.
  • For thickeners like Carbomer (ID 651) and HPMC (ID 336, ID 7474), they typically need to be dispersed in the water phase first to allow them to hydrate before gelling is induced (by alkali for Carbomer and HPMC ColdMix™, or by cooling for standard HPMC dispersed in hot water).
  • pH adjusters (like Triethanolamine and Lactic Acid) are added at specific points to achieve desired results. For Carbomer, the alkali is added after the Carbomer powder is dispersed to trigger gelling. Acid-sensitive ingredients should be added after the Carbomer has been neutralized and gelled. Lactic Acid is typically used towards the end of the process to adjust the final pH.
  • Other water-soluble liquid ingredients can often be added to the water phase before or after the thickener is fully hydrated and gelled, depending on their compatibility and the overall formula requirements.

In summary, while standard HPMC requires specific conditions for gelling, HPMC ColdMix™ offers a cold-process option. When using Carbomer with an alkaline ingredient like Lauryl Glucoside, you will likely still need both a base (Triethanolamine) to gel the Carbomer and an acid (Lactic Acid) to adjust the final product's pH. "Water-phase" means the water portion of your formula, and while dissolving in pure water is common, dispersing powders in glycerin first can sometimes be beneficial. The mixing order is ingredient-specific, with thickeners often dispersed first, followed by gelling agents (alkali for Carbomer/HPMC ColdMix™), and then final pH adjustment.