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MySkinRecipes Expert · Accepted Answer

Formulation Advice for Hot and Cold Massage Spray

Here is some advice for formulating your light-feeling, hot-and-cold massage spray using Chili Hot™:

1. Choosing a Cooling Agent

For a cooling agent that is effective on the skin and has minimal odor, both WS-23 Cooling Agent and Freeze Me™ (Menthone Glycerin Acetal) are suitable options.

WS-23 Cooling Agent provides a cooling sensation on the skin and is used at 0.1-0.5%. It dissolves in oil, glycol, or ethyl alcohol.
Freeze Me™ offers a longer-lasting cooling effect (2-3 hours at 3%) without the typical menthol smell. It works best in an ethyl alcohol or ethoxydiglycol base and is used at 0.1-30% (5% is a common recommendation). It also dissolves in oil, glycol, or ethyl alcohol.

Choose the one that best fits your desired cooling intensity, duration, and base formulation.

2. Water-Based Formulation Ingredients

Yes, using water as a base and incorporating ingredients like SiliWater™, Olive Oil Water, Shea Butter Water, and Glycerin is suitable for a light-feeling spray. These ingredients are water-soluble and can provide emollient, moisturizing, and skin-conditioning benefits without feeling heavy:

SiliWater™ adds a smooth, non-greasy feel.
Olive Oil Water and Shea Butter Water provide light moisturization and skin-soothing properties.
Glycerin acts as a humectant, helping to retain moisture.

3. Solubilizer for Chili Hot™ and Fragrance

To effectively incorporate oil-soluble ingredients like Chili Hot™ and fragrance into a water-based formula, you will need a solubilizer. PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil is a commonly used and effective solubilizer for oils and fragrances in aqueous systems.

4. Incorporating Water into Silicone and Oil Base

If you are using a silicone and oil base and want to include about 10% water, you will need a suitable emulsifier. PEG/PPG-18/18 Dimethicone is a water-in-oil/silicone emulsifier that can help bind the water phase into your silicone and oil base. It is recommended to also include 1-2% Magnesium Sulfate for improved stability.

5. Recommended Ester Oil for Silicone Base

For a light-feeling ester oil to mix with silicone in your base, Isodecyl Neopentanoate is a good recommendation. It is an ester known for its high softness and light feel, often used as an alternative to volatile silicones.

By carefully selecting and combining these ingredients, you can create a massage spray with the desired hot-and-cold sensation and a pleasant, light texture.